Is there "Too Much" SF?

By, Shock HVYL 1LT Rin, posted 4 weeks ago

4 weeks ago - edited

# L-nESlanFKoyVxWh

Rancor is an entire battalion under the SF brand with eight ARC slots and six Null ARC Slots then a thirty-five people limit on how many people total.

Regimental ARC has four slots for each battalion outside of Naval, Medical, RC, and of course Jedi. This totals out to twenty-four slots within Regimental ARC.

RC has a total limit of fifteen slots as well lower than everything but Jedi's SF branch.

Within Jedi they have six Shadow slots, one lore character, and a council member totaling out to eight slots in Jedi Special Forces.

This overall total is eighty-two slots in SF total, the server averages around the thirties to fifties in numbers on peak times, the allure of SF is obviously a factor but with how many slots there are how is any other battalion going to fill out their ranks with how many routes you can go to get in.

My personal feelings and thoughts are as follows: I'm starting to see this as a bit of an issue for recruitment since if there's eighty-two slots within SF who's going to want to be a standard battalion member when they could join SF, a lot of people want to feel special whenever they're playing something so I get the allure but I believe the amount of possible SF to be way too much. In older days it use to be eighteen Regimental ARC with two slots and a squad lead totaling out to around eighteen slots within Old Regimental ARC and eight Jedi SF including Kit Fisto reaching twenty-six slots total.

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4 weeks ago

# 4KcOiohrA-ke5aax

eh, i choose not to think about it. not really a huge issue nor has it ever been, though it is a lot of slots for SF, its not that huge of a deal considering how hard the tryouts can be for rancor, ARC and RC, plus having a whole SF battalion overseeing ARC is better then what we had back then so i actually prefer rancor over just Regi ARC and ARC leads.

overall, everything is actually fine right now and i dont see any reason that this is a big deal since there hasnt been any complaint or issue with too many SF spots before, plus best not to talk about it as sometimes it could lead to drama and arguments.

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4 weeks ago

# z0wHsb0N7ubj6sfY

On behalf of HCOM, I'll provide a bit of insight.

1: RC and Rancor have low caps on how many players can be in the battalion. RCs cap is 12 and Rancor is at 20 respectively. Slot numbers do not affect how many people are actually a part of a battalion.

2: We have a new system where certain battalion lives are not included until you reach a certain rank. This system is brand new, so we are still testing how we want to do it with certain battalions and none of the SF branches are included in that at the moment.

3: Regimental ARC is still battalion side. So, if you are a 212th ARC for instance, you still fall under the Army Command umbrella. You are mainly allowed to come along with SF Missions alongside having the special kit and certain expectations.

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4 weeks ago - edited

# -2mcBR18dayiFOtT

Thank you for the insight Dessel, that totals out to sixty-four slots total instead of the eighty-two I got. I had some wrong info for the Rancor and RC numbers. What are the jobs of the null arc within this case, I thought they were essentially squad leads/trainers of the regimental ARC.

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4 weeks ago

# 0hSNw8g8f70Kzswb

they are more like trainers (as ya said) and only the leads for the regimental ARC for SF missions only. anything outside of that regimental ARC respond to their proper command team, atleast that is what i remember

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3 weeks ago

# LMa6ThGE7U1tm090

Hello hello!
First and foremost, thank you for the inquiry as well as keeping the responses here civil. Feedback as well as constructive criticisms are much appreciated. Here are our thoughts on the matter as the assigned SF Overseers.

  • The Jedi Shadows are considered as third parties within the Army branch of Special Forces, with them being primarily within the JEDI ORDER. Furthermore, Dessel already pointed out the facts of how REG ARCs are part of the army command/battalion they serve under and NOT as dedicated SF units that's a part of the RANCOR battalion.

  • RANCOR, as a battalion, serves a role of helping elevate the standards of those within the community through server-wide open training programs and other activities, especially since we don't have an assigned trainer role for those who are new to the server or are returning players that wants to brush off the rust in a sense. The system that we've brought forth allows for a better structure that helps run the ARC, RC, & overall SF programs as a whole in a much more organized system that has been, and continues to, work over the course of the server's lifetime. This is a testament to the active player base within the battalion, who are all motivated in becoming the best in their fields which they EARNED through their own hard work, activity, overall dedication, as well as with their command structure. This applies to all SF units, not just the RANCOR battalion.

  • Our sincerest apologies & with respect, however basing off from the slots within their rosters would be an inaccurate way of measuring when it comes to the amount of players within a battalion. In total: there would be 32 slots for SF (20 RANCOR & 12 RC). Even if we were to use slots as a form of measurement, we do not believe it would be justified to judge a battalion based on them- which was the original point that was intended to be clarified with Dessel's response within the forums. If we were to direct our attention to battalions such as 501st, they may have well over 50 slots (not including their sub-units). This would be inaccurate as they, along with other battalions AND Special Forces, have a set limit when it comes to their total playercount.

If you have any further questions, or need for clarifications, we are always open in having a conversation via in VC, chat, or in-game if need be. Other than that, thank you for your time & reading through this response!

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3 weeks ago

# 0yqdCRq0sW5u5Y7o

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yeah i kind of agree the server often times has have of its online players be sf to the point of devaluing it also i can see from a GMs perspective that sending sf on a mission now often means sending most of the server idk it is something i think should be discussed cause i Also see the potential to hurt battalions numbers but that doesn't appear to be a issue right now

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3 weeks ago - edited

# HVQD9pkxpFRuT5ah

Ok so I checked the numbers it's forty members of SF with a cap of sixty-four, I'm now comparing the members of normal battalions now and it averages at around twenty members according to the numbers with Shock, 41st, and Naval having the lowest numbers among the battalions with Jedi having the highest. None of the battalions on the server reach the numbers of SF with the closest one being thirty-two members of Jedi. Also why is it that to become a Squad lead for regimental ARC you have to go through rancor first and become a Null ARC? Couldn't there be issues where someone completely unknown to a battalion suddenly becomes the Null ARC for said battalion.

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3 weeks ago

# etsSy4qfR6Luki2S

I think it's a very fair point, when on the server you either see over half the player base on SF or like 1 so it's hard to really judge. I feel like it seems like there is more SF than there is because most players who tend to be apart of SF are extremely active.

Also regimental ARC and Jedi are still apart of their original regiment and have to follow the rules and regs of said regiment they just have the ability to go with SF for stuff.

Admittedly I think SF should be a lot smaller then it is, takes away from being an elite unit if most of the server is SF but it's an RP server and if people enjoy playing as SF who are we to limit their fun because " There is too much SF " here to have fun at the end of the day

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3 weeks ago

# 1BD5n_fWAoriSiaP

Is there too much SF? No.

Are there a lot of players consistently active in SF? Yes.

SF is one of the most active branches on the server. Can it sometimes feel like there are more SF players than there actually are? Absolutely. But should the players who remain active be punished for that activity? Definitely not.

The leadership of SF monitors the branch closely and manages it well. If there were any real issues, they would be addressed accordingly

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